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1980s and 1990s were dismal for software engineers. From the top of the intellectual hierarchy at universities down, management types were jealous fake meme chasers. Engineers generally have developed management solutions for their activities. In the 1980s, engineers (incl. software engineers) could command higher salaries than the management school graduates who ran the departments they worked in. Management school graduates were generally not much more than combination secretaries / book keepers on engineering projects, even with a management title. Too many became little lying fools talking garbage about engineers. Nonsense was their business mostly. Just anything that made them feel like they deserved to have the most pay.

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